Talk:Capital Boulevard
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[edit]I have a serious problem with the 'historically the most significant road in Raleigh, North Carolina' claim. Given that the road didn't exist by name until the '80s, and no part of the road whatsoever existed before 1948, I have a hard time accepting the assertion that it's historically anything. --Booklegger 02:46, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Just a few words about why this article was created: my intent was primarily to begin an article about a major road (in the Raleigh area) that I am interested in and believe may have an interesting (and possibly instrumental -- to Raleigh) history. I just supplied all the information that I could think of in a short time, and hope that someday someone knowledgable about the area could add a little more. Perhaps the title should be changed (article moved) to reflect the Raleigh relationship, but I hope that the article can remain in some form (as space permits) until some of the area's history can be added. -- Rockhprpenguin 03:12, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
- Question for administrators: How long does the vote for deletion remain on the article?
From VfD:
True orphan--doesn't even link from the related Interstate article the original contributor has worked on. I don't want to "bite the newcomer", but seriously, do we want tens of thousand of street name articles? I realize "WP is not paper", but I go back to my 'ratio of articles/Wikipedians argument', an addition of which would be that all the time spent by new WPers on 'killing street name red-links', would be better spent on articles with more broad interest. Niteowlneils 06:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I live in Raleigh, NC. Capital Boulevard is a major road in Raleigh, but it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, worthy of an article in the Wikipedia. Delete. SWAdair | Talk 07:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Lean towards keep. It is a major street in a major regional centre in North Carolina. In response to Niteowlneils comments, presumably the reason that newbies spend time writing articles on streets or shopping malls because these things are of significance to them. I remember reading an article in the Melbourne Age is that one of the strengths of the Wikipedia is its greater coverage of local features. We have thousands of articles on Star Trek characters, Pokemon characters, etc or indeed music articles which I tend to work on. Why is is it considered that shopping malls where thousands of people shop daily or major streets in our cities are of less interest than these other interests? One of Wikipedia's strengths is that it is written by ordinary people about things that are important to them. I am tending towards the view that important streets in cities should be kept. If it doesn't interest you, you don't have to read them. Capitalistroadster 13:46, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- PS. A Google search of "Capital Boulevard" North Carolina [1] comes up with over 7000 results.Capitalistroadster 13:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, with care: As the author of "Peachtree Street," I've been on the fence about this. If a street is historically important, known outside of its own town, or really the main street of a town (e.g. if you go to visit there, every direction you get from someone will start, "Well, you go down to X street, and then you..."), it seems significant. In this particular case, Capitol Blvd. is the main street of Raleigh in a peculiarly apt way. The article can explain the importance of the street. Geogre 17:25, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, every set of directions in Raleigh begins with the Beltline. Capital Blvd. is a very lucrative street as far as city taxes go -- lots of fast food restaurants, new and used car lots, etc. In other words, it is like tens of thousands of other streets -- not noteworthy of its own article. Either merge or delete. SWAdair | Talk 03:09, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Comment. As above, I am NOT saying the street is not notable, nor that Wikipedia shouldn't mention it. I am simply questioning why it needs to be a separate article, instead of being part of the city's article? "Aurora Avenue" Seattle (THE main street in the north half of Seattle (where I lived 39 years, and still spend time); major commute route and commercial center) gets 26,000 hits, but I don't think it needs an article by itself. (BTW I only get ~5,700 hits for "Capital Boulevard" North Carolina--OIC 7,000 for '"Capital Boulevard" raleigh) Oh, and, while I appreciate having some LotR, Trek, etc. info, I think we have excessive granularity there, too. Niteowlneils 18:34, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Delete unless the article is expanded to explain why it is notable. Being a long city road with limited access portions does not make a road notable. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:48, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Merge into Raleigh, North Carolina and delete. It can't stand at this title, as there are other Capital Boulevards around the world, I'm sure. RickK 22:32, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, with care: I am the newcomer, and I appreciate not wanting to discourage me, but it honestly surprised me that this article was voted for deletion so quickly. My intent was primarily to begin an article about a major road that I am interested in and believe may have an interesting (and possibly instrumental -- to Raleigh) history. I just supplied all the information that I could think of in a short time, and hoped that someday someone knowledgable about the area could add a little more. Perhaps I should have labeled the article a stub, but I figured it was a good start. I think that granularity (eg. Star Trek, etc.) is good and is one of the main reasons I like Wikipedia so much. I guess I can understand space (server) constraints, but I think (if possible) Wikipedia would be better off with lots of "little stuff" -- you never know who might think some silly detail is worth studying or learning about. Finally, I just wonder which, if any category on What Wikipedia is not this falls into. Maybe there should be a new category or I'm missing a different page, but it would be nice if it were clear what kinds of submissions are not welcome so that I don't waste my time. (Sorry if I'm not supposed to vote for my own submission). Thanks... Rockhprpenguin 03:03, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
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Orphaned references in Capital Boulevard
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Capital Boulevard's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "google":
- From Interstate 87 (North Carolina): "Interstate 495" (Map). Google Maps. Retrieved December 14, 2013.
- From U.S. Route 1 in North Carolina: "US 1" (Map). Google Maps. Retrieved March 4, 2011.
- From North Carolina Highway 50: "North Carolina Highway 50" (Map). Google Maps. Retrieved February 27, 2014.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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