Talk:Byron White

Byron White was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
February 16, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

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judicial experience

The article says nothing about his pre-Supreme Court judicial experience... someone should fill that in. --Shallot 23:00, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This has since been fixed. --Joy [shallot] 09:59, September 10, 2005

Inaccuracy

I question whether White was first in his class at Yale. It does appear he was first in his class at Colorado, but many biographies of him leave out the valedictorian at Yale Law School, which seems odd. Does anyone know of any reliable supporting documentation? It appears at least that there are alternating versions.

Examples: http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/5238763 ("high honors," not valedictorian) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/04/15/white-obit.htm ("magna cum laude")

An even more glaring error might be the article's suggestion that he continued to return home for his high school reunions until 1999, six years after his death, "when his physical health worsened significantly." A strong man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.136.195 (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quotation from Doe v Bolton

Personally I am not a big fan of quotations sections, quotations are cheap wisdom in my opinion. However White's description of Roe v Wade and Doe v. Bolton (in Doe v. B., note) as an exercise of "raw judicial power" is frequently cited. From time to time it is ascribed to Roe v. Wade but that would be impossible as Rehnquist wrote the dissent in that case and White simply concurred. It seemed notable to me. Stroika 16:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is incorrect. While the dissent by White was published together with the Doe v. Bolton decision, it was for both Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton. White did not join in Rehnquist's dissent in Roe v. Wade. 192.138.214.100 (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the reference to being #1 in his class @ Yale Law School is correct , as it is frequently cited. However the reference to leadership of Conservative Party @ Yale makes no sense (White had no time and Political union is primarily an undergraduate group) and this is the first I have seen, so I encourage editor to review. Realistically, the Tim LeHaye quote, while substantively meaningful, really doesn't belong as LeHaye is hardly a Supreme Court commentators or White afficiandos. Both are somewhat polemical references seeking to categorize White as "conservative," which is neither true or value-added.

GA Fail

I am failing this due to lack of references, there is a total of 1. Sections and paragraphs remain unreferenced, also don't wikilink solo years ex 1754. M3tal H3ad 08:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But he's not the real Whizzer White

As I understand it, there was a football player in the 1920s named Byron White who was called "The Whizzer". Then a few years later this Byron White played college football, and he was called Whizzer White after the earlier Byron White, rather like Roger Barrett acquired the name Syd after another musician called Sid Barrett. This should be mentioned in the article, but I don't have source. Randall Bart Talk 06:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bot-created subpage

A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Byron Raymond White was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot (talk) 00:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Law vs. Football - importance

This is a stylistic nit, but why is his football record in larger print than his supreme course 'sidebar.'

Should the SCOTUS stuff be in a larger font than his college or NFL career? Hundreds of people play NFL games, but there are only 9 supreme court members - I'd argue that the supreme court stuff is more important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.101.136.61 (talk) 15:29, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Steelers v. Pirates

the infobox states that he was drafted in 1938 by the steelers, but played for the pirates. I don't know nfl history that well, but it seems that this must be an error or vandalism. if neither, some explanation is in order. Toyokuni3 (talk) 22:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know this was over three years ago and the infobox no longer lists the team players are drafted by, but I'll splain anyway. The Pittsburgh Steelers franchise was known as the "Pittsburgh Pirates" from its founding until 1939. Lizard (talk) 03:04, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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White's Nickname

Whizzer was supposedly a nickname that White did not like, especially in the context of his legal career.^[1] This is just one of many hits when searching "White hated the nickname Whizzer. Balancing the number of people who search for the old time football player versus the people looking for the Supreme Court Justice, it seems appropriate for the article to reference Whizzer in a section on his early life.

References

^ http://www.cnn.com/books/reviews/9807/15/man.whizzer.cnn/index.html

Signature on JFK nomination message

The signature on the nomination message currently shown on the page does not resemble other samples of JFK's signature (see e.g. the samples here). Does anyone know whose signature it is? Grover cleveland (talk) 15:42, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated quote

The quote in the section on Bowers v Hardwick is identical to the previous large quote. This seems unintentional. ELSchissel (talk) 22:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What I edited

I added and removed spaces to make the infobox more tidy when the editing window opens. I also correctly linked Fort Collins, Colorado and Wellington, Colorado; according to: MOS:GEOLINK. I used {{NFL Year|1940|1941}} instead of [[1940 NFL season|1940]]–[[1941 NFL season|1941]] since it is easier to use, and also I added 1938 and 1940 All-Pro Team links, and eliminated the 1941 second-team All-Pro because he was not chosen for the team by any selector. Plus, I added the link to his profile on NFL.com and moved the Short description, use mdy dates, use American English and disambiguation link infoboxes above because they should be displayed at the beginning of the article. Sergio Skol (talk) 16:24, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Football player: you've got to be kidding

White was a Supreme Court justice for DECADES and yet this isn't mentioned in the description of the article. Things like this really undermine Wikipedia's credibility. Trashbird1240 (talk) 16:52, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Trashbird1240 He is mentioned as a judge; other Supreme Court justices aren't specified as such in their short descs. —C.Fred (talk) 16:57, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred Wikipedia conventions aside, the idea that he is known in US history primarily as a football player is preposterous. Trashbird1240 (talk) 17:01, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Football player: no kidding

I'm certainly not gonna mess with the layout of this football star-turned-supreme court justice, but I do have an excellent football photo (shown to the right) that I just uploaded. Use it or don't, just be sure his football career is mentioned appropriately. tim /// Carrite (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.cnn.com/books/reviews/9807/15/man.whizzer.cnn/index.html

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