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Moore's law confounded the electronic world

Computers were in the size of a refrigerator not this much compact and efficient. Gordon Moore the smart engineer predicted that based on the industry on industry developments semiconductors get to new models every two years. Read more on the following link:

http://phys.org/news/2015-04-silicon-valley-years-law.html

MansourJE (talk) 08:43 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Should the graph be expanded?

If "Moore's Law" was observed and speculated in 1965, shouldn't the graph show data from prior to 1965 too? I would have added data myself, but don't know how. 74.74.207.246 (talk) 11:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First paragraph

As of 2023 sep, the first paragraph reads: "Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit (IC) doubles about every two years. Moore's law is an observation and projection of a historical trend. Rather than a law of physics, it is an empirical relationship linked to gains from experience in production."

The last word is the key to understanding what's meant. This should appear earlier in the paragraph for good, quick comprehension.

As it stands, one gets the impression that the transistors in your device are breeding or something. This whole idea is about what's going on in MANUFACTURING. 184.96.226.106 (talk) 14:39, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The paper he wrote wasn't even primarily about transistors. The word is only mentioned twice. More emphasis should be put on what he actually was saying, and less on what people think he was saying since "Moore's law" has been misused a lot since he wrote on the topic in the sixties. Oskar Tegby (talk) 08:05, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should define "areal density"

The first instance of "areal" is:

> "Evidence from the semiconductor industry shows that this inverse relationship between power density and areal density broke down in the mid-2000s."

The word "areal" is unusual enough that "areal density" should probably be defined. I noticed there is a an article Area density whose first sentence says it is also known as "areal density", but that seems to be mass per area, which I don't think is quite what "areal density" refers to in that sentence. Either define it here or use another word. Em3rgent0rdr (talk) 14:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Areal density has defining article and so now linked in this article. Tom94022 (talk) 19:34, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly state "density", "production", and "cost"

The top section should really include all the major points of the law, specifying after some time (12/18/24 months), number of transistors in given area (density) will double, and remain roughly the same production cost (minimum component costs). People often misquote it as "performance doubles every 2 years", or in better cases "transistors on a cpu doubles every 2 years", missing the points about density (comparing a Grace Hopper to mobile SOCs) or cost (again think about big server chips vs small SOC).

One slight problem is finding source, these points are all scattered around in the 1965 paper, and even Intel doesn't seem to care about density. (they mentioned cost though)(~~I like to imagine they avoided talking about density due to their struggle to get to 10nm :)~~) Sohryu Asuka Langley Not Shikinami (talk) 04:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The increased density very directly leads to improved performance and cost benefits so those apples don't fall far from Moore's tree so I think it is fair to cover all these adjacent "misinterpretations" here ~Kvng (talk) 18:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so sure Moore's Law is Dead.... Yet

Has anyone put the Cerebras and their Wafer Scale Engine (WSE-3) on the graph? It's 2024, and I'm pretty sure these processors have kept Moore's law alive. And they are very, very valid processors and might be the future of processing. 87.208.131.149 (talk) 21:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, here it says the Cerebras has 4 trillion. Which if I'm right, would mean moores law has accellerated. https://cerebras.ai/press-release/cerebras-announces-third-generation-wafer-scale-engine#:~:text=Cerebras%20Systems%20Unveils%20World's%20Fastest%20AI%20Chip%20with%20Whopping%204%20Trillion%20Transistors,-March%2011%2C%202024 87.208.131.149 (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]